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WILSON VERTICAL CB ANTENNAS
ON THE HAM BANDS?
Get a lot of bang for your buck!
By John Reisenauer ~ KL7JR

See latest updates at bottom of page!

(Updated March, 2012 with maps )
(Updated June, 2011- Mag mount testing on 6 meters)
(Updated July, 2010 - "outdoor" tests from VY1, ant up 7 ft)

(Updated May, 2010 - Using them as horizontal dipoles)
(Updated March, 2010 - Input from a user)
(Updated November, 2009 - Using them as horizontal V Beams)

Every now and then I stumble on a fabulous antenna at a really cheap price that works well on the ham bands. What would you say if I told you for about $20 you could work a lot of DX on 10, 12, 15, 17 and 20 meters with one Wilson FGT-2 vertical antenna CB antenna?

Numerous testing over the last few years resulted in some very good readings on my MFJ 259B analyzer using Wilson FGT series CB verticals on the ham bands as verticals, horizontal V beams and dipoles (horizontal or vertical). Although some of my tests were conducted "indoors" from a "deed restricted" community, the settings proved to be good starting points for outdoor use.

My main goal was to take the economically priced Wilson FGT series CB antennas to a new level! The verticals had to be easily modified for ham band use (more than just 10m), easily transported for portable use, compact and provide some gain within a small footprint. That's a lot of "wants" I know, and I got just that. Imagine 6 ham bands (6, 10, 12, 15, 17 and 20m!) on a $15 antenna!



Graphic (Wilson Antennas)

We all know of Wilson's antenna reputation.
Their website
www.wilsonantenna.com  rates the FGT-2 with some impressive figures (as tested against other CB antennas) including a relative db gain of 3 (FGT-3 was rated 4.5 db gain)!

I read in a past issue of the TCA Magazine  (Canada's equivalent of QST) where a ham, Tom - VE1TWB /VE1DC, used this antenna for mobile use on 10, 15 and 20 meters, so I decided to try it and see if it would also work the WARC bands as well. See Tom's comments below in the updated information.

The Wilson FGT series antennas, FGT-2 through FGT-5, (FGT-2 is two feet long, the FGT-3 is three feet long, etc. etc.) are top loaded 3/8 inch fiberglass rod construction with standard 3/8 inch x 24 inch thread mounting.

They are available in red, white or black and have "an exclusive impedance matching transformer lead" which you attach to the antenna mounting connector,
(I simply let it dangle as in photo #1 below, as I found it doesn"t make any difference if it"s attached or not).


PHOTO #1 


The results of my use of this antenna are as follows.
It was during the winter of 2000 when I really got hooked on this antenna for mobile or portable use. I had racked up over 60 countries on 10, 12, 15, 17 and 20 meters from Cousins Island, Maine, in my rental car (see photo #1 above).


The FGT-2 was bolted to a short mast which was sitting in the trunk and duct taped to the lid hinge. I didn"t want to drill holes or leave connection marks on the rental car, so I found another use for duct tape!

From St. Croix, US Virgin Islands, I worked HB9, OM5, 7X5, PA3, AZ4, EA8, EA7, EA1,5Z4, FS, G0, YV4, 8R1, DF3, DJ4, I8, PW7, F6, PY2, IR4, 9A7 and many others on 10, 15, 17 and 20 meters in the winter of 2003/2004. The FGT-2 vertical was mounted on a CB mirror mount connector bolted to a five foot length of pipe stuck in the sand with 3 ground radials spread out.

From near Bear Glacier in Alaska, I worked KH6, KL7, HK3, VE7, VE6, VE4, VE2, ZL1, VK2, VK4, JA1 thru JA7 and all over the lower 48 states on 10, 17 and 20 meters in the spring of 2002.
The FGT-2 vertical was on a tri-magnet mount on the roof of my truck (see photo #2 below). Put on your parka, the photo is very "cool"!
 


Photo #2


From Galveston Island, Texas, I worked VE4, VE2, VE7, VE3, XE1, XE2, IK7, IK8, JI3, DL8, LY2, VP2, CO8, TG8, 6Y5, IW1 and a few others plus 45 states during 4 weekends of poor band conditions on 15, 17 and 20 meters in the summer of 2006.

I used the same mag mount as above but with a FGT-4 vertical. With a 48 inch stinger, the FGT-4 is resonant across the entire 20 meter band. For now, I use an auto-tuner and the 20 meter tip and have good results on most bands. Further experimenting with the FGT-4 is required.

Tip lengths for a Wilson FGT-2 Vertical CB Antenna:

28.300 to 28.700 MHz    2 and 5/16 inches

24.930 to 24.990 MHz    6 and 1/2 inches

21.200 to 21.450 MHz    13 and 3/8 inches

18.100 to 18.168 MHz    28 and 1/2 inches

14.200 to 14.325 MHz    40 and 3/4 inches

Tip length for a Wilson FGT-4 Vertical CB Antenna:

14.100 to 14.325 MHz    48 inches

Above measurements are for the whip set all the way in the antenna.
Just tighten the set screw and go for it.
An MFJ antenna analyzer was used and the measurements should be close for most uses.
Wilson's FGT series of vertical antennas may be available through your local CB dealer (shop around for a good price), or check Wilson's website for dealer locations and antenna specs (http://www.wilsonantenna.com/fiberglass.php
).

I've seen ads for the FGT-2 for $18.95 and the FGT-4 for $23.95 on the web.
 
For the whip tips, you can buy them (make sure they'll fit the FGT verticals first!) or simply use stiff wire (a metal clothes hanger works good!) to save money.

You'll want to purchase an extra allen wrench as they are lost easily (one comes with each antenna).

I highly recommend the Wilson FGT antennas for mobile, portable or perhaps for low profile fixed station use ON THE HAM BANDS!
 
73 de Yukon John, KL7JR/KL7USI

Updated information and comments from Tom Brazil, VE1TWB / VE1DC:

"
I know it works well..... I had used this antenna mobile for about 5 yrs on my tractor-trailer before I decided to tell anyone about it. I worked stations all over the world on my mobile antenna.
One night I worked my friend VE1LV-Hal from Mohave Desert heading to Bakersfield. It was at midnight when I called Hal and chatted with him for an hour before signing of. Another time in 1996, I was mobile working Canada Day Contest from in Erie, Pa, when I hear a JA operator calling me.
I could hardly believe my ears when I heard him say that he was receiving me at a 5/7 - 5/8 signal on 20 meters in Japan!

I know of quite a few hams here in Canada that are using the Wilson and really enjoy the antenna. Some hams can't believe how well it works. A friend of mine VE4DS - Darrell used the antenna for a year and could not believe how well it worked. Darrell purchased a Yaesu mobile vertical which worked pretty good but Darrell said he had to go back to the Wilson because of the better signal TX/RX on 20 meters.

The antenna does perform well! I remember one day leaving home in Nova Scotia heading for California and hear a DL4 calling. I went back to him and we had a QSO for about half an hour and he could not believe that I was using a 5 foot antenna on 20 meters, because it had a steady signal of 5/8 and never wavered one bit.

I would like to see every ham try the Wilson. The reason why I designed the Wilson modification was because when I was mobile, most of the mobile verticals were mostly 8 feet long and they stick out like a sore thumb on a tractor-trailer and most of them didn't work very well either. So when I discovered the Wilson I mounted it on the truck mirror and it looked like a CB antenna but just a little longer, and it kept thieves away from my truck."
I have a bunch of QSL cards stored away from stations I worked from all over, but the two that stick out the most are DL4 & JA.
Anyone that uses this antenna for the first time won't believe how something so small works so well."

73 Tom Brazil, VE1TWB / VE1DC



Updates: November, 2009.

USING WILSON FGT-2 VERTICALS AS HORIZONTAL V BEAMS by KL7JR







Indoor prototype frequency and swr measurements of 
WILSON FGT-2 CB ANTENNAS USED AS HORIZONTAL V BEAMS

FGT-2 Vertical

Without Stinger
With 5 3/8"
With 11 3/4"
With 22 1/2"
With 37 1/2"

Test Frequency(Mhz)

27.760
24.900
21.290
18.050
14.300

Ham Band Use

10 meters
12 meters
15 meters
17 meters
20 meters

Multi-Band Possibilities:

FGT-2 w/ 3 1/2" stinger - 26.700 - 10 and 12 meters

FGT-2 w/ 17" stinger - 19.660 - 15 and 17 meters

FGT-2 w/ 30" stinger - 16.260 - 17 and 20 meters

Note: R=50 ohms and SWR below 3 in above single band testing indoors.

The settings will get you close and better results outdoors (I hope!).

Use an ATU for fine tuning and especially if trying multi-band use.

 

If you haven't tried the Wilson FGT models (FGT-2, 3, 4 or 5) on the ham bands,
you are missing out!  I'm not a Wilson spokesman nor am I getting a cut from
them for advertising their verticals (they don't even answer emails- hi hi!), I just
want to get the word out about a great ham bargain....
 
 Here is what I found playing with the FGT-4's indoors as V beams. 
Outdoor results should be much better. 
 
FGT-4 w/17 inch 3/8x24 extension and 14" stinger *
FGT-4 appears very 15 meter friendly, more so than FGT-2 (lower SWR and "X" - I suppose because of length). 
21.250-21.320... "R45"  "X 30" and SWR 1.8. 
At 21.500 "R50"  "X14" and SWR 1.3 w/17" extension and 11 1/2" stinger!   
* Eagle1com.com (# AE17 for $9.50 each)
 
FGT-4 w/41 1/2 " stinger...14.125 MHz  "R50"   "X0" (that's good!) and SWR 3.3 
 
In the upcoming weeks I'll put the antennas on the air and see what they do. KL7JR

November 23, 2009 - The upcoming weeks have passed. Here is another update with outdoor testing on the air!

Test results from the field at 25 below zero for VY1RST (KL7JR and WL7MY ops) in Beaver Creek , Yukon  on November 19-22, 2009. 

 

From Buckshot Betty's Cafe and Cabins in Beaver Creek, Yukon 
 Installed in picture below!


Yes, that's cold snow...and a hot antenna!


The V beam far exceeded my expectations from such a harsh environment.  A pair of Wilson FGT-4 verticals with 41 1/2 inch stingers were used with a TS-570D (100w) and LDG Z-100 tuner. 
The tuner easily tuned the V beam all across 20 meters so I knew the tip length was close from previous tests!

VE6EPK and VE6EX in Calgary were kind enough to give me a few minutes to compare the VY1RST antennas.  We traded 5x9 reports all the way around (V beam was pointed to the Midwest states).  
Later on 20 meters, I got similar report comparisons of 5x9 on the 2010 vertical and V beam from hams in CO, TX, SC, MN and LA which lead me to believe I was getting 180 degree coverage and some gain with the V beam.
 
WH6OR on the Big Island gave me a 5x9 on the vertical and a 5x7 off the side of the V beam.
 
For years I wondered if CB verticals without any special matching or fancy baluns would work on some ham bands as simple compact and economical beams.

Previous indoor testing in this article above, (we live in an apartment), on 10, 12, 15, 17 and 20 meters with my MFJ 259B analyzer showed promising results. 
Now I know! 

Future testing on other bands to follow.  Imagine that, a simple (direct coax connection) and compact beam for about $50.   73, de Yukon John KL7JR/VY1RST


------------------------------------------------------
Wilson FGT-3 Verticals Tested as Horizontal Dipoles

by Yukon John KL7JR/WP2JR

I've been using CB antennas on the ham bands since 1987 with good results.

I mostly used the base station antennas (Solarcon A-99, Shakespeare 2010, Super Big Stick etc.) on 10,12, 15, 17, 20 and 40 meters with a tuner but now I'm "driven to" mobile CB antennas for use as mini-beams on 10-30 meters. Here's what I discovered testing a pair of Wilson FGT-3s as horizontal dipoles.
Keep in mind dipoles are closer to 60 ohms than 50 to begin with, so readings around R=60 should be good. I've noticed that little changes are required when switching from a horizontal dipole configuration to a vertical dipole or a one element V beam, so I always start testing as horizontal dipoles.

Your ATU should easily handle any adjustments as mine do.

The Wilson FGT-3 seems to favor 10 MHz (see 10.140 and 10.500 MHz numbers in the chart below), and using the supplied ground strap (aka impedance matching transformer) often aided in more desirable readings! The 28.450 reading ain't too shabby either using the ground strap!

I highly recommend you NOT to cut off the ground straps. Just let them dangle. You may need them later on another band! "Good" and "poor" R and X values shown for comparison. The tip lengths below should be good starting points.
 
TIP FOR TUNING:
I use metal clothes hangers to experiment with before I cut any commercially made whips to length. I found that most dry cleaning shops will give out used, and sometimes new metal hangers if you ask them nicely!

Note that Wilson advertises the FGT-3, 4 and 5 as 5/8 wavelength antennas rated at 1000 watts. I have no doubt the FGT-3s will perform great on the ham bands as the FGT-2s and 4s have for me to date!

73 de Yukon John

All readings taken with MFJ-259B

FGT-3 Vertical

With Supplied

Pair used as Horizontal Dipole

Freq MHz

SWR

"R"

"X"

Ground Connected

with 17 1/4" tip

10.100

1.8

50

27

yes

with 17 1/4" tip

10.140

1.8

57

14

yes

with 17 1/4" tip

10.500

1.1

60

0

yes

with 9 1/2" tip

18.150

2

48

33

yes

with 9 1/2" tip

18.150

2.3

41

46

no

with 12 1/2" tip

21.280

2.2

48

40

no

with 12 1/2" tip

21.280

2.8

38

47

yes

with 5 1/2" tip

24.900

2.2

62

35

no

with 5 1/2" tip

24.900

2.1

67

30

yes

with 7 1/4" tip

24.950

2.2

63

36

yes

without tip

28.000

3.2

50

61

no

without tip

28.000

2.2

52

19

yes

without tip

28.200

1.9

45

22

yes

with supplied tip (full in)

28.000

1.8

50

23

yes

with 3 1/2" tip

28.100

1.7

50

20

yes

with 3 1/2" tip

28.100

3

72

74

no

with 8" tip

28.450

1.3

50

14

yes

with 8" tip

28.450

5

23

54

no

Note: 14 MHz tests all mostly with X over 50, so apparently not 20m friendly!
I used 32" to 36" long whips. Your results could be better so don?t rule out 20 meters.



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(Update-March 2010) KC0QPJ - Colorado


My name is Chelsey Johnson, I am a General Class operator KC0QPJ in Colorado. I have had numerous difficulties getting on the air the last few years because of space restriction and landlord restrictions. I operate an FT-817 and at 5w max out it is a challenge anyways.

After reviewing your page about the Wilson CB antenna mods I decided to give it a shot. I bought 2 FGT-4's and installed them on back to back mirror mount brackets so that they would be in dipole fashion. I work on an ambulance and have never been able to get on the air during our down time at the station. I simply could not string a wire dipole up..too much possibility to upset the boss or have some kid get tangled in the supports. But I decided to bring the Wilson dipole to work and try it out for the first time today. Simply stated, I'm estatic! I hooked up the Ft-817 and my LDG z100 auto tuner. The antenna tuned to resonance like a charm across the whole 20m band. I worked the CQ-WW-DX contest at work today and made 20 QSO's all with a 599 report. I was able to string the dipole up high in a tree and run my coax into the upstairs of the station, out of the way of any one who might be concerned/mess with it. For an antenna that is only 25 feet up and a radio that runs 5 watts at best QRP, it cannot be beat! Thanks for living the true spirit of Amateur Radio and sharing this awesome antenna idea!

The antenna's are great! Thanks to John, KL7JR and HamUniverse I now have an awesome portable set up.

------------------------------------------------------------

Update July, 2010 by KL7JR, JOHN

FGT-3 as a V beam ("outdoor" tests from VY1, antenna up 7 ft.)


I knew the FGT-3 was 15 meter friendly from my previous indoor tests, and outdoor testing and in

July, 2010 from Cottonwood RV Park near Destruction Bay Canada verified it.
Impressive numbers
were obtained just above and below the 15 meter band.  After several attempts with stinger lengths ranging 10 to 14 inches long, and whether a ground strap was used or not, I stopped testing in hopes an ATU would bring the antenna more in line on 15m.  This is yet to be seen and I will try again later on.

with 10" stinger and both legs grounded.....Freq 21.825,  SWR 1.1,  R 57 and X 0

with 10 1/2 stinger and hot leg grounded.............21.800, 1.1, 65 and 0

with 12" stinger and no grounds...........................21.102, 2.2, 66 and 22

with 12" stinger and both legs groundd................21.080, 1.8, 72 and 24

with 13" stinger and hot leg grounded..................20.571, 1.1, 64 and 0



UPDATE 06-22-2011
Wilson FGT-4 Testing for 6 Meters by KL7JR

*Whip length     Freq MHz   SWR     "R"      "X"

50 1/2"                   50.150       1.2       43        10

                               14.250       5.9         9        15

48"                                 50.150          1.4          48          17 Best numbers!

                               14.250         6           9       14

40 3/4"                   50.150       1.5        37       12

                               14.250       4.8        11       13

37"                         50.150       1.3        40       11

32 1/2"                   50.150       1.6        43       23

29 3/8"                   50.150       1.5        50       23

15"                         50.150       1.8        50       29

11 3/4"                   50.150       2           48       33

 

 *Whip inserted fully in and ground strap left to dangle. 14.250Mhz used for reference only.

 
Mag mount on metal chair on top of plastic picnic table for height.

 

Antenna Experiment Notes and Tips:

Do not cut off the supplied ground straps (impedance matching transformers) on the FGTs. Leave dangle if you don't use them. Some of the FGT series antennas work better on the ham bands with them connected! If I used the ground straps, I'll list as "yes".

Non-ham frequency ranges shown for "information only".

Remember that dipoles are closer to 70 ohms than 50, so don't worry about R readings in the 70s ( a tuner will help if R in low 40s).

All measurements taken with whips fully inserted in the antennas.
 
I recommend you have a tuner in line unless you fine tune your antenna to suit your surroundings especially if the R is 40-50. The tuner will make it right!

"T" Mount details here>> http://www.hamuniverse.com/kl7jrdipoleTmount.html

UPDATES MARCH, 2012
North America map coverage - Pdf file download (rotate map when loaded)
World Coverage map - Pdf file download (rotate map when loaded)

Have fun experimenting and please provide feedback should you experiment with these verticals. 73 KL7JR kl7jr@yahoo.com




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