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LinkSys Routers and Ham
Radio Interference! Another plague for the
Ham Bands?
Information And
A Cure for RFI/EMI from LinkSys Routers and Their Products
to Ham Radio?
MAYBE!
Multitudes of Ham Radio
operators are reporting in various forums, interference in varying
degrees from none, or minor, to MAJOR disruption to Ham Radio Bands
from LinkSys products of all types! Hams worldwide are having
problems associated with LinkSys products.
The purpose of this page is NOT to
downgrade or bash any manufacturer or product line....only to report
what others have said and done about the known interference problems
specific to the Ham Radio bands and the LinkSys products.
There may be other brands causing interference also.
Just a little FYI on the noisy
wireless router problems causing interference to Ham Bands.
Apparently this is a known issue with many Linksys routers and other
products from LinkSys whether they are wireless or not and has been
ongoing for a long time.
We will attempt to give you
information, some known models causing trouble, links, sources of
discussion, tips, and hopefully at least one
cure for Linksys product interference to the Ham Bands. There
are other sources on the internet concerning these problems but we
will give you some of the more popular ones. You can do a search and
find lots more.
More about the
problem.....
Some Hams are of the opinion
that the whole bag of Linksys models is involved to one degree or
another and that LinkSys knows about the problem but are not very
helpful most of the time except in rare instances. Usually the
support people just state that they are compliant with the FCC rules
and regs and drop the subject!
One
interesting question is how did they ever get Type approval if they
are so compliant in causing interference to a Licensed
Service? Question unanswered as of this
writing!
Maybe LinkSys has the correct
answer!
Here are some
statements taken from various sources of Ham radio operators
concerning LinkSys products:
"It seems that all LinkSys
products have been produced with absolutely no shielding or RF
bypassing of any kind and with total disregard to interference,
RFI/EMI, caused to any other device."
"Linksys products have got to
be the worst on the market."
"SOME MODELS CAN BE
HACKED FOR INCREASED
POWER"
"My 2 meter rig is now happy
that LinkSys junk is gone."
"Frankly, I think these things
are messier than a spark gap transmitter!"
"These routers have also been
known to shut down adjacent networks, cordless phones, hf rigs,
pagers, baby monitors... you name it."
"There's a ton of pages online
about how it creates havoc on Amateur
Frequencies."
"Pure hash caused by
trash"
"Absolute Junk.....put it where it belongs....in the
trash.! "
"Disconnect it
from power......problems are gone!" Editors
note...this one says it all!
"Try shielding the
cables...may help some."
"I will never by another
LinkSys product again."
"I have a LinkSys model DI-524 router. With
power on, the router is breaking squelch on my 2m reciever
over 30 feet away. This is with the squelch full clockwise
and scanning is out of the question. With the router off,
the Yaesu 7800 is performing as advertised."
"The 624 is
history as soon as I can get a replacement."
And on and on.
What models are
involved?
According to our research on
the web using various forums, input from emails, bulletin boards,
etc, as sources, these are the LinkSys models mentioned most of the
time that create RFI/EMI to Amateur Radio Bands or
frequencies:
Models reported to be rfi
producers....(including other LinkSys
products).....this list is not all
inclusive..there may be others:
BEFSR41
wireless-g router
"G" router + WAP
BEFSR11
WRT54G Update....Models in Europe may not be problems
( "CE" marked according to Roger MW0IDX K3IDX)...thanks
Roger!
10/100 hub from Linksys
(Model EFAH05W)
BEFSR1
BEFW11S4
D-524 Router
D-Link,
Model DI-624 ver. E1. 4 ports & 108 G wireless..... Hash
on 2 meters for 3 to 4 hundred feet away!
NOW ONE
(CURE)......HOPEFULLY!
Taken from one of the
forums and referring to a wireless LinkSys router courtesy of
VE3VDC:
"When I called their support
line they not only knew all about it, they knew exactly who to put
me on with for advice.
Their support line is at
1-800-326-7114.
The problem is that the cat5
cables radiate the ethernet switching hash from inside the router."
(Editors Note...the keywords here are
{INSIDE THE ROUTER}....THE SOURCE!)
The third
harmonics land on mid-VHF frequencies.
Basically they
suggested:
1) Set all NIC cards to 10
mbps.
2) Coil up extra cable length
on a "three finger" form and tape.
3) Disable unused ports.
4) Make certain all connectors
are clean and in good condition.
5) Keep the router at least 6
inches from metal objects.
6) Disconnect unused
cables.
This seems
to have worked.
No more washing machine sound
every few Khz all across 2 meters... at least for now. Time will
tell if this is a permanent solution. (fingers crossed) Source of
these tips...VE3VDC See his excellent article "RFI From Computer
Networks" here.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Some other
good sources, forums, comments, etc concerning the problem with
LinkSys products and Ham Radio: Note,
The eham.net links below may require some rather long drawn out
reading and sorting time to wade thru all the QRM in the
articles.
http://www.eham.net/articles/8302
http://www.hamforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4952
http://www.eham.net/forums/RFI/361
But it doesn't end there...
There's lots more on the internet!
SOME TIPS IN
TRACKING DOWN SOURCES OF RFI IN THE SHACK.
These tips may help in
locating severe noise sources to 2 meters and bands above that are
suspected of coming from your radio or computer equipment.
If the source strength is intense and fundamental frequency is low
enough, this could be the source of all your ham band problems. Also
see tips for HF below.
Tips for VHF and
above:
Using a 2 meter handheld,
adjust it to an unused frequency. Leave the "Rubber Duckie" antenna
attached.
Stand back several feet from
the suspected device or if needed in another room or location if the
white noise "floor" is too strong.
Adjust the squelch just to the
point that the white noise stops.
Now move the handheld around
or near each and every piece of equipment in your station that is
near your router or associated cables.
If the squelch breaks an noise
poors from the receiver when you are very close to the suspect
device...then you may have found the source!
Now remove the antenna from
the handheld remembering the device, cable, etc, that caused the
squelch to break.
Carefully move the antenna
connector end of the handheld toward the device.......the noise
should increase and break the squelch even higher as you get
closer with the handheld if this is the source of the noise to 2
meters. (When you removed the antenna, you greatly decrease the
"sensitivity" of the handheld. This helps in pinpointing the exact
source.)
If your handheld has a
signal level meter, (S Meter), this will aid in tracking down the
source with more accuracy than listening to the noise coming from
the speaker. The stronger the reading, the closer you are. With the
antenna disconnected, you will have to be close to the suspected
device.
Now leaving the handheld in
the same position (don't move it), remove all cables from the
suspect device except the power to the unit.
If the noise stops or gets
much weaker...one of more cables are most likely radiating trash rf
from INSIDE THE DEVICE! Don't forget the cables going to the
computer. Check them too. Your computer and associated devices,
cables, etc may also be adding to your problem or could be the
culprit!
If you remove the power to the
device.....all noise stops.....you have found your
source!
BEST Solution.....If it is a
LinkSys device.......remove it from service and get another well
known brand in a metal case with shielded cables if possible with
known good shielding all around! Simple as that.
Don't spend good money on
extra shielded cables, ferrites, etc and just wasting your
time....of course this is up to you.
Troubleshooting
and locating RFI on the HF Bands.
Use a short length of coax
connected to the antenna input of your HF rig with a very small
"Sniffer" loop attached to the other end. In other words, build
yourself a very small loop, about 1 or 2 inches in
diameter, fed with 50 ohm coax leading to your HF rig antenna
input......Don't key your transmitter while the loop is used for
obvious reasons!!!!!!
You will use the Hf receiver
to help locate the suspected noisy device just like in the 2 meter
procedure above using the "Sniffer" loop on the end of the coax.
Make it long enough to reach all devices in your station.
You may need to use
attenuation and or RF gain to reduce your receiver sensitivity
during this procedure. You want to have the least sensitivity the
closer you get to the source of the noise to aid in pinpointing
it.
Check all bands and
frequencies or the band that you are having the noise on by watching
the S meter and listening to the audio from the receiver.
Remember...the most simple
thing to do in finding the culprit is to disconnect the power
from each suspected device and if the noise stops.....you have
located the source!
Good luck
More RFI Tips and
Tricks....click here!.
Notes from the
Editor;
You will notice in the
response from LinkSys tech support to VE3VDC above, that they
AKNOWLEDGED THAT THEY HAVE THE PROBLEM!
We would like to thank L D
Blake, VE3VDC for informing us of this problem concerning LinkSys
products and the Amateur Bands. We usually do not report on
concerns such as this but due to the severe nature of the problems
with LinkSys and the Amateur Radio Bands, we hopefully can inform
more people about what they may be getting into if they use LinkSys
products in or near Amateur Radio Stations......
If YOU have any valuable input to
this article pertaining to other models of LinkSys products
interfering with Ham bands and/or known cures, please email us with
the exact models and description of the interference. You may
notice the Google ads on the left side of the page with LinkSys
advertising.....we are not responsible for the Google ad content.
They are sorted by Google as related to the content on
this page. I doubt that any of you would be interested anyway in
buying LinkSys products if you read this complete article and do
your research! If you are still interested in
LinkSys...just click on any of the ads.
73 N4UJW
Hamuniverse.com {n4ujw at
hamuniverse.com}
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